My first winter in barefoot shoes was a rough one. My barefoot boots had a super thin sole and my little toesies FROZE in the snow. If zero drop barefoot shoes are preventing you from going outdoors, that’s a problem. Barefoot shoes are meant to inspire movement, not have you running inside to avoid frostbite!
It’s taken me a few years, but I’ve since found the best barefoot winter boot options that combine the important features of barefoot shoes along with serious functionality (aka warmth, waterproofness, and traction). This post is the ultimate guide to warm barefoot boots for winter.
Read on for the best warm barefoot winter boots including, snow options, extra wide boots, vegan options, and some great tips for keeping warm!
- The All Time Warmest Barefoot Winter Boots
- The Best Barefoot Winter Boots for Snow – Waterproof & Good Traction
- Barefoot Winter Boots for Extra Wide Feet
- Warmest Vegan Barefoot Winter Boots
- Complete List of Barefoot Boots for Winter
- The Warmest Barefoot Winter Boots for Kids
- Tips for Staying Warm in Barefoot Shoes
The All Time Warmest Barefoot Winter Boots
I’ve been testing barefoot shoes for years in extreme Midwestern temps. Here are the absolute warmest barefoot winter boots that are zero drop, flexible and even have ground feel to keep your feet healthy AND protected. Because snow boots can also be comfortable boots.
Before we get started, here are a few of my best tips for getting the most versatility out of your barefoot snow boots:
- Learn how to waterproof your shoes.
- Consider using a wool or sheepskin insole.
- Find warm (but foot friendly) socks to wear inside your boots. I recommend socks with a high wool content.
- Get yourself a pair of Yaktrax for very icy conditions.
- Check my “Tips For Staying Warm” section for more.
And a few more barefoot boot resources that might be useful for you:
And finally, in this post I talk about what type of feet these boots are best for to help you avoid costly mistakes. Find Your Foot Type Here.
Alright, let’s dig in to the best barefoot boots for cold temps and snow!
Steger Mukluks
Leather | Wool Lined | Rated to -30 F/-34.5 C | Ships from USA
These boots just got updated with a heeled sole, so you’ll want to shop the originals in the Garage Sale section or on secondhand sites like ebay.
Steger Mukluks are hands down the warmest barefoot snow boots I’ve ever put my feet into. The insole and body of the boots are lined with 9mm thick felted wool that is moisture wicking and built for extreme temps. The outsole is rubber and surprisingly grippy on ice and show. The exterior is high quality moose hide (both soft and super durable). This boot beats out all the others for both warmth and traction, and yet you can still feel ice chunks under your feet when you walk. It is a little heavier and clunkier than some of the others I talk about in this post, but to have warm toes when it’s -20 F out? I’ll take it.
None of the Steger models come waterproof, so I also bought their waterproof spray and treated my boots before wearing them. It has worked great for me, whenever my boots get wet the water beads up and rolls off the leather instead of soaking in. I reapply it each fall and they look almost brand new even after three winters! And I hear repeatedly from readers who have owned Stegers for 5, 10, even 20 years and they are still going strong.
To be true barefoot winter boots, use them with the felted wool insole instead of the supportive insole (boots ship with both). And if you have low volume feet like me you might even want to order an extra felt insole and layer both inside the shoe.
Sizing & Fit Type
- 3 widths fit average to extra wide feet
- Square toe box fits most foot shapes
- High volume
- True to size
Note that the felted lining tamps down with use! So they might feel pretty snug at first, but you will get more room as you wear them. I ordered a Women’s 7 Wide for my wide feet and they are very spacious after a few years. You can also call in to Steger’s shop and ask for internal measurements.
If you have low volume, narrow heels, and/or thin ankles, expect to need an extra insole, thick socks, or leg warmers to make these a secure fit. You also might want to order a model with ties so you can tighten them on your leg. If you have thicker ankles and calves and don’t need the ties, Steger also has models that are just pull-on.
Traction Rating: Snow – Great | Ice – Good
Softstar Phoenix
Leather | Sheepskin Lined | Rated to -25 F/-32 C | Ships from USA
The Softstar Phoenix is a fully lined high quality sheepskin boot with a side zipper for easy on and off. The fur is super thick, warm, and close fitting so you don’t feel like you’re going to walk out of the boot. They can be worn with or without socks because of the breathable, moisture wicking sheepskin. They keep my legs and feet super cozy in cold temps, and they’re so easy to put on and off! I find myself wearing them a ton on winter walks.
Sizing & Fit Type
These will come in a wider shape starting October 2!
- Medium Width
- Low to Medium Volume (but can stretch to fit)
- Runs Small
The Phoenix is made entirely of leather and so can stretch to fit a variety of foot types, but they might feel too snug on extra wide/high volume feet. I also recommend sizing up because of the thick lining unless you have quite slim, low volume feet. Mine are a 7U, or Women’s 8.
Traction Rating: Snow – Good | Ice – Good
Be Lenka Winter Boots
Leather | Wool or Fleece Lined | Rated to -25 F/-32 C | Ships from EU
Code ANYASREVIEWS gives you 5% off when you shop with them (but they only accept returns from within the EU and USA). We carry lots of Be Lenka models at Anya’s Shop!
Be Lenka Barefoot has super functional winter boots that are perfect for snow, cold, and even dressing up in the winter! They come fully lined and in varying degrees of water resistance, and you can easily waterproof them yourself for extra protection.
I love Be Lenka because they fit most people due to their extra wide toe box and adjustability (on most models, the Polaris shown above is not adjustable). The outsoles on Be Lenka boots are also more durable/slip resistant than a lot of other barefoot brands. While a little bit heavier than I prefer on my everyday shoes, when it’s snowy, icy, and frigid outside I really appreciate it.
I have been wearing my Be Lenka boots for 5 years now and they continue to be some of my most worn! They’re a beautiful blend of comfort, style, & function.
Note that the warmest Be Lenka boots come with a wool lining, so check the product listings for details. Many also have a fleece lining which is cozy but not quite as warm.
Sizing & Fit Type
Be Lenka’s best boots for winter are on their DeepGrip outsole (learn about their different outsoles here). They fit as follows:
- Extra wide
- Square shaped
- Medium volume (but pretty versatile for all volumes with laces and insoles)
- Runs short
If you are in between sizes I recommend going with the larger size. Especially if choosing a wool lined model, you want to wear warm socks, and/or you have extra thick/high volume feet. I wear a size 38 in all my Be Lenka boots, but would need a 39 if I planned to wear extra warm socks. *The current Winter 3.0 doesn’t run as small as the 2.0!*
Traction Rating: Snow – Good | Ice – Good
Xero Alpine
Waterproof | Vegan | Rated to 0 F / -18 C | Ships from USA
Outside the US? Shop Xero EU here!
The Xero Alpine is an all around solid barefoot snow boot. It comes up higher than the Tracker, and is easy to cinch tight to keep snow out. They are waterproof and come with a removable insole, which I swap out for a warmer sheepskin insole. These are warm enough for me in subzero temps with thick wool socks, but note that the fluff is only in the top and not lined throughout. My two beefs with this boot are that the sole is pretty stiff for a barefoot boot and they are slippery on ice (but great on snow).
Sizing & Fit
- Medium to wide width
- Plateau shape (rounded toe box)
- High volume
- True to size
In the Alpine I have lots of space above my toes! But likely won’t be wide enough for extra wide feet.
Traction Rating: Snow – Great | Ice – Satisfactory
Zeazoo Dingo
Leather | Sheepskin lined | Rated to -20 F / -29 C | Ships from EU
Use code ANYASREVIEWS for 5% off your order at zeazookids.com. Or you can find them in the US at Anya’s Shop.
The Zeazoo Dingo is a personal favorite of mine. They are the perfect barefoot Uggs dupe and so easy to slip on for quick jaunts outside when it’s freezing. I wear mine often as school-run, coffee-run, and mail-run shoes. The sheepskin lining wicks sweat so they’re comfortable barefoot and they are just so warm but lighter than all the above options (and nice and wide). You can also roll the top down to get a furry cuff and a shorter height.
While they are a home run for warmth, they don’t have a robust outsole so the bottom edges of the boot can start wearing quickly if you use them roughly. And the upper is not water resistant. They’re more of a warm lifestyle boot than an active outdoor snow boot. Still, a total lifesaver if you live in a cold climate.
Sizing & Fit Type
- Wide width
- Plateau shaped
- High volume
- Runs big
I size down in the Dingo and still have plenty of space! The cozy fur lining also tamps down with use so it’s ok if they feel snug when brand new. Once worn in they can be a little loose on thin ankles and narrow heels, so leg warmers are a great way to make the Dingo work for low volume feet.
Traction Rating: Snow – Good | Ice – Good
Vivobarefoot Tracker
Leather | Waterproof | Rated to 0 F / – C | Ships from EU or UK
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The Vivobarefoot Tracker is one of the most versatile barefoot boots around. The Tracker Snow is the best option for winter, but we’ve had a great experience using the Tracker FG as well.
They are thick and padded (to keep you warm), waterproof, and have good traction. I use a sheepskin insole in place of the one Vivobarefoot provides and I am comfortable in temps down to 0 F / -14 C. These boots are my top pick for snowy hikes when I need to have a firm grip on the ground.
For fit info, read my full review of the Vivobarefoot Tracker.
Sizing & Fit
The Tracker FG and Snow is:
- Medium width
- Sloped, so might not fit square shaped feet
- Low to medium volume
- Runs slightly small
Vivobarefoot shoes have a lot of big toe space, but can be a little squishy on people whose outer toes splay out wide. Justin and I both size up one in the Tracker FG & Snow (not in other Vivo models) because the waterproof lining makes the boot fit snugly.
Traction Rating: Snow – Great | Ice – Good
Wildling Shoes
Textile & Wool | Water Resistant | Rated to 10 F/-12 C | Ships from Germany
Wildling Shoes hold a special place in my heart. They literally feel like wearing nothing, combining innovation, quality materials, and a gorgeous aesthetic. Besides being adorable, Wildling has somehow managed to create an ultra thin outsole that bends in all directions effortlessly. The uppers of Wildling winter shoes have an integrated waterproof membrane and are topped with either wool or cotton. The models change annually, but for the best warmth I recommend the ones made of a wool upper with a wool lining.
I also wear a felt insole inside my Wildling winter boots, which I consider essential (my cold rating above includes the insoles). If I wear wool socks and leg warmers I can even get by in 15 F/ -10 C for short periods of time! Though I am most comfortable in Wildling boots in temps of about 25 F+. While these are not sufficient to keep me outside for long during the harsh Midwest winters, I wear mine frequently for short jaunts and feel like I’m in slippers the whole time.
Sizing & Fit Type
- Medium to wide width
- Plateau/Square shaped
- High volume
- True to size
While all Wildlings have the same squared off toe box, some models fit roomier than others so I always recommend checking the fit guide on the shoe listing. And if you have low volume feet I highly recommend adding one of Wilding’s wool insoles to your order. Wildling’s do intentionally fit long so you have plenty of toe space!
Traction Rating: Snow – Good | Ice – Satisfactory
Manitobah Mukluks
Leather | Faux Fur Lined | Rated to -25 F/-32 C | Ships from Canada
Manitobah is an Aboriginal-owned Canadian brand that makes faux fur and sheepskin lined mukluks. The original mukluks are built on a super flexible Vibram outsole (but not all models are zero drop, so look for the flat ones!). They are thick and warm inside and yet you still feel grounded. One bonus to Manitobah is that they have waterproof options!
Manitobah tends to fit quite loose through the ankle so I chose this wrap tie version for adjustability. They are the softest, coziest boots! Since the Short Wrap is not waterproof, I used Nikwax spray on it, which seems to be working well.
Sizing & Fit Type
- Narrow to medium width toe box
- High volume
- Runs big/stretches a lot
Manitobah mukluks have a fairly tapered toe box when brand new, but there is a lot of vertical space and the leather stretches out a lot as you wear them. They are quite loose in the ankle, so if you have thin heels and ankles I recommend a wrap style like the one I got so you can tighten it up.
Traction Rating: Snow – Great | Ice – Good
Peerko Frost
Leather | Wool Lining | Rated to 10 F/-12 C | Ships from EU or US
Code ANYASREVIEWS10 gives you 10% off your order. Peerko doesn’t accept returns outside the EU, but we will be carrying the Frost in the US at Anya’s Shop this fall (expected to arrive October).
The Peerko Frost is probably the most stylish barefoot winter boot in the bunch! The smooth leather is naturally water resistant, and you can waterproof them yourself for extra protection. The outsole isn’t the best for winter terrain, so I prefer to use them for warmth as I go around town as opposed to playing in the snow or hiking. But if you’re someone who needs to look nice in the winter AND spend time walking around outside they are phenomenal.
Sizing & Fit Type
- Wide toe box
- Medium volume
- Runs slightly small because of wool lining
Peerko boot have a pretty universal fit and are well loved across the board. They probably won’t suite someone with an extra wide toe splay, and you might want to size up one because of the thick lining. I wear mine in a 38.
Jenon Leather Snowflake
Leather | Sheepskin Lining | Rated to -5 F/-20 C | Ships from EU
These Snowflake boots from Czech brand Jenon Leather were a surprise hit for me. They are very cozy warm with a wide toe box and slim heel (which means they don’t slide around my narrow heels). The leather upper is smooth and quite water resistant so I didn’t bother treating it. I also appreciated that the sole is a bit thicker than many barefoot boots for more warmth while still being flexible.
Sizing & Fit Type
- Extra wide fit
- Plateau shaped toe box
- Medium to low volume
- Runs small
The lining is very thick so I am glad I sized up one. I found that the volume was on the lower side, but I know that many people with high volume feet enjoy these boots after sizing up.
Magical Shoes Alaskan
Leather | Wool Lined | Rated to 25 F/-4 C | Ships from Poland
Use code ANYA for 10% off
The Magical Shoes Alaskan is an ultra flexible, ultra lightweight wool-lined barefoot winter boot. The outsole is very grippy on snow and ice, and the side zipper makes them easy to put on and off. For being so light, they are surprisingly practical. But I do find the material on the thinner side so my feet got cold faster than in the other boots I tested. I put in an extra insole and warm socks, but still felt the cold through the top fairly quickly in my climate.
While the upper material is water resistant, the zipper and the tongue is not waterproof so water can come in through those places if soaked.
Sizing & Fit Type
- Medium to wide width
- Plateau shaped toe box
- Medium to high volume
- Runs small
I definitely recommend sizing up in these, especially if you have wide feet!
Traction Rating: Snow – Good | Ice – Good
The Best Barefoot Winter Boots for Snow – Waterproof & Good Traction
Because traction and waterproof-ness is a separate feature from warmth, here is how I rank the above boots as barefoot snow boots. These are boots that come up above the ankle to protect from deep snow, are waterproof (or can be waterproofed) and have good traction on both powdery snow and ice. These barefoot boots become more practical when you use extra thermal insoles such as these sheepskin ones.
And don’t forget that you can waterproof or re-waterproof shoes that are starting to lose their effectiveness. For more info, check out this post on How to Waterproof Your Barefoot Shoes, or the section at the bottom of this post with Tips on Staying Warm.
Steger Mukluks – Traction Rating: Snow – Great | Ice – Good
Vivobarefoot Tracker – Traction Rating: Snow – Great | Ice – Good
Be Lenka Boots – Traction Rating: Snow – Great | Ice – Good
Softstar Phoenix – Traction Rating: Snow – Good | Ice – Good
Xero Alpine – Traction Rating: Snow – Great | Ice – Satisfactory
Barefoot Winter Boots for Extra Wide Feet
Got extra wide feet? Have trouble fitting in lots of barefoot shoes? Here are the widest options out there, with the most ample room for toe splay.
Ahinsa – Use code ANYASREVIEWS for 10% off
Be Lenka – Use code ANYASREVIEWS for 5% off, or shop lots of styles at Anya’s Shop!
Groundies Barefoot+ – This only applies to the Barefoot+ models! Learn more about how they fit in my Groundies review.
Jenon Leather Snowflake – Can be made custom to your specs! Read the full Jenon Leather review here
Luks Invierno – Up to size EU 42
Realfoot Farmer Boots – Super wide toe box! Read our Realfoot review here.
Shapen Barefoot – Available at Anya’s Shop in the US, or get 5% off shoes and accessories with code ANYA5 directly from Shapen.
Softstar Switchback – Not as warm as the Phoenix, but still cozy and very wide (choose the Wide option).
Steger Mukluks (double wide width)
Check out this post for a full list of barefoot shoe brands for extra wide feet.
Warmest Vegan Barefoot Winter Boots
If you wear vegan shoes, it can be extra tough to find warm barefoot boot options. The following are the warmest barefoot winter boots that are completely animal free. See my Best Vegan Barefoot Winter Boots Review for detailed info on them.
For a full list of options, check out my Complete List of Vegan Barefoot Shoes.
- Ahinsa Winter – The Bare line is barefoot. The Comfort line comes with a non-barefoot removable insole. Use code ANYASREVIEWS for 10% off
- Feelgrounds – Patrol & Chelsea
- Leguano
- Lems Boulder Boot
- Magical Shoes Lupino Vegan – Get 10% off with code ANYA
- Sole Runner Transition Vario 3
- Tadeevo Winter – Use code ANYASREVIEWS for 5% off!
- Zaqq Quintic, Quest & Qice – German website here. Select Zaqq boots available at Anya’s Shop!
- Xero Alpine
Complete List of Barefoot Boots for Winter
Want more barefoot winter boot options? Here is a Complete List of Barefoot Boots for Men & Women
The Warmest Barefoot Winter Boots for Kids
For a review of my top kids picks for cold and snow, check out my Warm Barefoot Winter Boots for Kids post!
Tips for Staying Warm in Barefoot Shoes
Even if you don’t have the absolute warmest zero drop winter boots, there are things you can do to make them cozier. I use a combination of all these things through out the cold season.
Boot Liners
Depending on how much extra space you have inside your boots, liners can really increase their warmth. Put a warm liner inside a waterproof overshoe and you’ve got yourself warmth, traction, and waterproof-ness (just keep an eye out for the flat options).
- Intuition Denali Liner – This is a very expensive liner, but extremely warm.
- LL Bean Snow Boot Liner
- Fleece Liners
- Rain Boot Liner
Insoles
My all time favorite trick is to use an insole. Here are a few of my favorite warm insoles that make my regular boots more practical for winter. For more, read this post on barefoot insoles.
- Sheepskin – Takes up lots of space, you may want to size up in your shoes to fit
- Wool – Cut to fit your shoe size!
- Furry (vegan)
- Thermal (vegan) – I don’t find these to be very warm, but if you need vegan they are an option.
Socks
- Injinji Wool Toe Socks
Knitido Wool Toe Socks – Use code ANYA20 for 20% off - ToeToe Wool Toe Socks
- Thick boot socks
- Yoga Stirrup Socks – I use these over my socks almost every day. Knitido (linked above) also sells great ones
- Leg Warmers
Waterproofing Techniques
- Collonil Carbon Pro
- NikWax
- Sno Seal – Head over to Instagram for a tutorial on waterproofing with Sno Seal
- Aqua Seal – for seams/holes/etc.
111 thoughts on “All Time Warmest Barefoot Winter Boots – Zero Drop, Snow, & Waterproof”
Since you have some influence in the barefoot world please have some one make a really warm boot like Sorels that are lace up in the front with good traction. Thanks! 🙂
I’ll do my best! 😀
Solerunner’s Transition Vario 3?
Thank you for bringing that model to my attention! It looks very intriguing, I am looking into it now.
Any chance of an early review of the Feelgrounds Patrol while the discount is still in place?
Unfortunately not, I’ve already asked and they don’t have any samples to send in advance.
Hi! I am brand new to the world of barefoot footwear. Thank you for this article and the sizing article. Do you have any advice on wearing barefoot shoes with a foot injury and neuroma? Looking for shoes to minimize foot pain and keep my feet warm in New England Temps.
Hi Hailey! I would suggest looking through the Barefoot Shoes FAQ – there are a few about dealing with foot pain and links to additional resources that might be helpful. I don’t have a lot of experience with neuromas, but from what I have heard some cushion can help (you would still be getting all the other benefits of natural footwear). I like NorthSole insoles for that.
Here is the FAQ: https://anyasreviews.com/barefoot-shoes-faq/
I had neuroma pain for several years, before I switched to barefoot-style shoes. The design elements that I believe were most important to resolving my pain were: toe box wide enough to allow my toes to splay fully (pinched toes were pinching the nerves); absolutely no heel lift and no toe spring (raised heels and toes put more weight onto the very place where the neuromas had developed); and finally — no cushioning.
That last element seems strange, but when I was wearing Altra shoes that were zero drop with no toe spring, but had about 3/4 inch cushioned (flat) soles, I still had some pain. When I switched into Unshoes moccasins with no cushion at all, the pain disappeared in less than a week, and has never returned.
I think the reason for this is that my transverse arches were collapsing and putting pressure on the nerves that were affected. Suddenly when they had firm ground to stand on, they sprang up and the pressure was relieved. So sinking into a nice soft cushioned sole was the opposite of what I needed!
Dr. Ray Maclanahan has a couple of good YouTube videos on neuromas and how bad shoes cause them.
Good luck!
Hey!
I’m wondering if you tested any of the Angles or Davinci boots for traction? I’ve been eyeing them for a while since I find their style more appealing, but can’t find any reviews on that matter.
Thanks in advance.
Hi! I have reviewed Da Vinci, the outsole is ok on ice and snow but not great. It works in a pinch though! I haven’t tried Angles yet, but have two pairs on the way to me now.
Thanks so much, looking forward to reading about Angles!
I cannot tell you how very, VERY helpful these in depth reviews are!! I live on the Michigan/Indiana state line and have a hard time finding boots warm enough for my cold feet that also have traction in snow and ice. Your rating for all the factors is amazing!! THANK YOU! This is my first year in barefoot shoes, so my first venture into boots for the fall/winter/spring, and I needed all the help I could get!
Is there an English version of the Angles website?
If you open it on Google Chrome you should be given the option to translate it to English
Which pair would you put on to play in the snow with your kiddos?? 😄
It would depend on the temperate! I wear my Vivobarefoot Trackers a lot if it’s not too cold (as in not below), but since it often is where I live I wear the Stegers and Manitobah boots pretty often in the snow.
Hi Anya!
Thank you soo much for all the great information you provide, you have helped me so much in my journey to stronger, healthier feet (and body)!
I have a question about the Manitobah, you say to size down but would you mind sharing your foot measurement or how much space you have according to their sizing chart?
As the sizes are not european and I have found vastly differing conversion tables I am confused as to what would be a size down for me. My feet are about 24,5 and 25,0 and size 9 is listed as 25,5 and size 10 is listed as 26,0. Most of my shoes are around 26 – 26,3 but I don’t have any winter boots yet so not sure if my regular boot size would be 10 or 11. As I live in Sweden it will be very expensive for me to get it wrong, so I am trying to get it as right as I can 🙂
Thank you in advance and keep up the great work!
Best regards Camilla
Hi Camila! My feet measure 23.3 cm long from a foot tracing and I usually buy a size women’s 7 in boots or an EU 37/38. I got a size 6 in Manitobah (which usually translates to a 36 in EU, but not always) and they felt tight at first but feel really spacious now. Hope that helps a little! You might also email in to them and ask for help. Good luck!
Hello,
Thank you for your review on the tracker by vivobarefoot. It’s good to know that it does well in snow and ice.
would you say the vivobarefoot tracker and the forest tracker both would do well in snow and ice?
also do you have listed your favorite warm insoles and where to find them? would you also say that the xero xcursion could be good for snow and ice if the warmer insole is used?
all my best,
Catherine
Hi Catherine! In the table of contents you can jump to the section on “Tips for Keeping Warm,” there I list my favorite warm socks and insoles with links. Yes, the Xcursion could be used in those conditions with an insole, but it still won’t be super warm. I used mine in some ice in the spring before it thawed and my feet were kind of cold (but I hadn’t swapped out the insole). The Tracker FG is warmer overall.
Hi Anya,
Do you think you will be restocking the Zeazoo Dingo in the shop sometime soon?
thank you!
Yes! They are being made now, the adult Dingos in brown should ship to us quite soon, like this week or maybe next.
Will you be updating this list with the new Be Lenkas? Would love to know how their new ones stack up against the older ones.
Yes I will!! I’m anxious to get those Snowfox boots on my feet (but not anxious for snow…)
Hi Anya, I can’t seem to find the following 3 Be Lenka models at Anya’s Shop: the Snowfox, the Ranger and the Winter. Will they be added (or restocked) soon? On this page it says that you are carrying all 3 this season.
Here are the listings for those products:
https://anyas-shop.com/products/be-lenka-winter-2-0-merino-wool-lined-barefoot-boot
https://anyas-shop.com/products/be-lenka-ranger-fleece-lined-boots
Unfortunately the Snowfox was discontinued so we weren’t able to restock that one. I need to update that portion of the article. But the other two we have had in our shop since the fall 🙂
Hello, found you doing a Google search. Amazing, quality review. Thank you. I am traveling to Antarctica in January for three months for work. I’ve been wearing barefoot shoes for many years now and find any shoe that isn’t zero drop kills my feet. However I’m ok with stiff soles. I was hoping there would be a warm, waterproof / snow show that could cope with -10 degrees Celsius that was zero drop. Wondering what you would wear if you were heading there?
Hey, there, thanks! I would still go with Steger for those temps. It’s regularly much colder than that where I live in the winter and I can stay out for long periods of time with warm feet in the Stegers. You might do ok with the new Be Lenka Snowfox, but it’s a brand new style and I haven’t tested it in winter yet so I would be reluctant to recommend it for a big trip like that.
Thank you Anya, you’ve been such a help.
This list is such a helpful resource. Do those Be Lenka Winter boots have a gusseted tongue?
They did not when I wrote this, but they updated them to a 2.0 version this year that I am fairly certain is gusseted to about halfway up the eyelets. We have not yet gotten our Winter boots at Anya’s Shop so I don’t know for sure.
Hello Anya,
I love your reviews and you have influenced me to go “barefoot!”
Sorry, but the ANYA code at Vivobarefoot didn’t work for me tonight, FYI.
Thanks for everything!
My Vivobarefoot code is actually ANYAVB! I just double checked it and it’s working.
Hi Anya, I find this list really helpful thank you! I suffer from Raynaud’s disease and get chilblains on my feet. I’m soon moving to Norway where the winters are cold and wet and need a really warm pair of waterproof snow boots. Which one would be your first choice? It seems that the Stegers would be good but are they truly waterproof and good to stay out in the snow or even when it rains? Many thanks in advance.
Hi Silvia! The Stegers are definitely the warmest, but they are so warm that I only wear them if it’s below freezing. That means it’s never very wet when I wear them. I did use a waterproofing spray, but haven’t tested it in puddles or rain (my feet would be so hot!). Personally I think the warmest option that’s still fully waterproof is the Be Lenka Winter 2.0. The Zeazoo Dingo’s are also very warm and good for Raynaud’s, but you’d have to really waterproof them (probably a wax based sealant like Sno Seal) to make them functional for rain.
Hi Anya, have you had a chance to try the Be Lenka Snowfox for adults yet? What are your thoughts on them? Many thanks.
Hi Silvia, I haven’t yet. We will be carrying them at Anya’s Shop so I’ll get a chance to try them as soon as they start shipping (hopefully soon).
Thank you for this list! Do you know when you/the BeLenka website will have re-stocked the three different winter boots? They went so quickly! TIA
I don’t know at this time, but we are getting the Snowfox in at Anya’s Shop really soon!
Hi Anya! This list is so helpful. I am transitioning to barefoot shoes, and I’m wondering which of these warm boots might be best for a beginner. Thank you!!!!
Hi Anna! A lot of these will work for a beginner since most of the warmest options have a thicker sole. Steger Mukluks come with a thick felt insole, and the Softstar Phoenix is another option with a moderately thick sole. Those would be two good choices if you want something a little more substantial to start with.
Thank you!!!!
I have one more question. It looks like Steger Mukluks are all “slip on” and do not have zippers. Are they hard to get on and off? I have never had a boot that does not have a zipper! Thank you. Love your website so much.
You do need to have enough ankle range of motion to point your foot to get it inside. But they’re not difficult otherwise! I have ones that tie so it takes a little extra time to do that.
Hi Anya, questions re: the Manitobah mukluks. 1) Do you still wear them? Curious about their longevity / the lining squishing down with use. 2) I just received a pair and when I look at the width of the sole, it’s even more narrow than my current non barefoot pair. You mentioned they do stretch to allow toe wiggle room, but did you find the sole was sufficient for long walks? I followed their size chart and ordered a 6 (typically a size 7). My toes are touching the top of the shoe without any socks. Was that your experience when you first got them?
I actually tried two different models. The first one I go was the waterproof Tamarack and they felt way too squishy. I returned them. The second was the pair shown in this post, that still felt tight but was a lot softer. It took a handful of wears but the toe box opened up a lot, both in width and in height. The sole thickness feels great for long walks, but they never widened to be as wide as my Stegers. I still like them a lot, they are soooo soft. But a year later I do wish there was a smidge more toe space.
Hello from Spain!
I live in a cold area where we reach -10 C and I am a cold feet person =). I am interested in Be lenka ranger boots. Do you think they will be warm enough?
Thank you for your precious work and info.
Hello fellow cold feet person! Personally, my feet would be a little cold in the Rangers in those temps if I was outside for a long time. The Be Lenka Snowfox is much better for temps that low in my opinion. But you could get by in the Rangers if you swapped the insole out for a sheepskin one and had warm socks.
Maybe I exaggerated a little bit, probably the winter temperature ir closer to 0 C. I have the Scott by Vivobarefoot and my feet get cold, do you think the Rangers by Be lenka are warmer? Thank you again!
The Rangers are warmer than the Vivo Scott. I find that the Vivobarefoot thermal insoles just aren’t very warm! But the Rangers are warmer overall, even in the upper.
Hello Anya!
Do you think you could do an in depth review on the “Steger Mukluks boots” pretty please? They seem to be the ideal winter boot! I tried looking for more information on these boots but sadly the website doesn’t really say much or show the shoe at different angles. So bummed 🙁 I also wanted to thank you for everything you’ve done here I TRULY appreciate it all! I really hope these boots are the ones! Thank you kindly happy holidays!!!
Hi Anya! I’m wondering if you’re suggesting to wear a liner with only a waterproof overshoe (minus the regular shoe in between.) I’m thinking of trying that. I can’t seem to load the Neos page from your link but I did find a pair of Stealth Angels in a google search that look promising. Thank you for your awesome work! Laura
Yes, that’s exactly what I’m suggesting! I haven’t tried it myself but have heard from several readers that it acts as a fully functional shoe even without any actual boot in there. I’ll check the link and see if I can figure it out.
Hi Anya! ♡
Quick questions about the steger mukluks!
What is the internal length and width of the ladies 7w queticotall boots you have?
And what is the length and width of the boot externally?
Does it come with a liner for the inside?
Do they stretch and get wider?
My shoe size is a woman’s 8 but sometimes can fit a 7.5.
My foot measures 9.5 inches length and 3 3/4 inches width which size should I get for the same style boots you have?
(I have mountain shape foot and high volume)
Sorry for all these questions I desperately need warm barefoot boots lol
Thank you kindly 😊
I would give them a call directly! They can give you the length and width of the boots and were really helpful. They did become roomier inside as the wool tamped down, but not a ton roomier. At first they felt snug, and now are perfect. Should be great for mountain shape and high volume!
Hi there, thanks so much for this wonderful website. I’ve spent a very long time pouring over your reviews to figure out the best boot for my foot and locale.
Our most common winter pattern that causes me to reach for boots is to have wild fluctuations – in the 30s/40s for a day or two and then single digits with snow/ice for a day or two and repeat. This creates trails that are part mud, part slush, part melted but refrozen, and part never melted, all depending on how the sun hits that spot on the trail. I like to hike on hilly trails, so traction is kind of important too. And I get cold feet easily, so I like warmth.
How do you think the Steger Mukluks hold up in these conditions? I’ve read some reviews that suggest they’re best for truly cold weather when the snow won’t melt; that they don’t hold their own against this messy slushy stuff we have. But I read one reviewer that seemed pretty happy with them even in slushy/muddy conditions.
I’ve also considered the Softstar Switchback and the Be Lenka Snowfox. I’m nervous that the Snowfox might not be boxy enough at the pinky or wide enough. I’m nervous that the Switchback might not be warm enough or hold its own in slush. I’m also on a pretty tight budget, generally, so paying these prices is a fairly big sacrifice/commitment that I want to get right.
For shape reference: with socks I’m a solid 10.16cm wide but only 22.38 long. Square shape toes. Softstar Primals are the only shoes my feet like. I’m a little wider than they are, but the leather stretches and it’s the best option I’ve found so far. When I called Steger they told me their double-wide size 5 would probably stretch to almost my width (0.1 cm shy of the goal width) which I thought sounded liveable. I’d love to here your thoughts and advice, even if there are models I’ve missed that I should consider. Thanks in advance!
Hi Susie! The Softstar Switchback sounds like the best bet for your foot type, since you already love the Primals and there aren’t any other boots with quite that much toe space. The Be Lenka Snowfox is a fairly close second in width and is warmer and more waterproof than the Switchbacks (because the Switchbacks don’t have a gusseted tongue). If I were living in those temps and conditions and fit comfortably in all 3 options, I’d choose the Snowfox. I haven’t worn my Stegers in slushy conditions because they’re so warm, I really only reach for them if it’s COLD COLD with everything frozen solid. I found the traction to be excellent on ice, but can’t speak to wet slush.
Thank you so much for that feedback! It is so very helpful. Though I wish desperately that I could walk into a brick and mortar store and try all of the minimal footwear on whenever I wished, having help like this is the next best thing. I truly appreciate your work!
Hi Anya,
I’m currently at a loss for finding the right winter boot. I need one in stock for my work and Steger is on a 12 week waiting period. I need a boot that can hold up to me walking in high snow, icy surfaces, up hill and down hill, off trail into brush, and slushy weather. I work in natural resources so I’m all over the place outside, so something that doesn’t snag burs/seeds (no fluff or soft fabrics) and holds up to scrapes against twigs and thorns every so often.
I was thinking of getting the vivobare HI FG and getting a thick insole to help it last for low temps -15 F and slush. Or maybe a BeLenka Snowfox. I expect to get Arctic Steger next year when they are in stock but need something now that hopefully can be used for winter and slushy weather. What would you suggest for my needs? I hope to use them for trail hiking, snowshoeing, icy walks (with yaktraks), slushy cold, and off trail brush hiking.
I think the Snowfox and Hi FG both would be good. Also the Sole Runner Transition Vario 3 and the Xero Shoes Alpine would fit the bill. I have been loving the Snowfox and if it were me I’d probably pick that one.
This has been so helpful!
I got the wool insoles you can cut to shape for both my current barefoot sneakers and to put them into a new pair of barefoot winter boots I want to buy.
One issue that happens with the boots: with the insole in, my toes don’t have enough space anymore. My feet are low volume, so I have plenty of space everywhere else. But my toes feel squished. How do you solve that? Do they just have to be walked in? Do I need to size up?
Hey Amanda! Some shoes don’t work well with extra insoles because it pushes your whole foot up. If the shoe and insole is brand new then you likely will get a little bit more space over time as the wool tamps down and the toe box loosens. Otherwise you would need a thinner insole.
Hi Anya,
I urgently need warm and waterproof winter boots for the bitter snowy slushy CT winter. I just transitioned to barefoot shoes and didn’t get anything for the winter in time.
My Lems size is women’s 11.5 (Primal 2), and Vivibarefoot is women’s 11.5.
However, when I measure the size for BeLenka winter boot (27cm long 11 cm wide) I am not on the chart.
Can you please help recommend what is the waterproof, good grip, WARM wide boot. I am walking my dog all times of day all kinds of nasty weather and want the boots to work without worry and fit.
Thank you so much!
I would check out the Winter 2.0 from Be Lenka. It goes up to an EU 47. My guess is you’d be an EU 44. They are really practical for cold and slush, I wear mine in the snow a lot.
P.S. added to above question I forgot to mention I also wear Softstar MaryJane’s in 10 narrow (they fit like nice boats for me!).
Do you know – Is the Winter 2.0 from Be Lenka discontinued, or have they just not come out with a 2022 version yet?
It just hasn’t been restocked for 2022! There will be some slight changes to it this year, but overall the same. We’re just starting to get our Be Lenka boot inventory in at Anya’s Shop, it’s coming in one style at a time! And the lined winter boots will be after the lighter autumn boots.
One more question 😆 Do you have a Be Lenka Snowfox review somewhere? I’ve searched but didn’t see anything, but saw your comment in Jan that you were “living in them” 😊 An in depth review would be fantastic!
I didn’t write an in-depth review, and they are actually being discontinued for adults :/ so whatever is available now is all there is. They will be restocking a new snow boot style later on (in addition to the Winter), but I haven’t seen it in person yet. It won’t be as tall, so my guess is the Winter will be better for snow.
Hi thanks!! Do the Wildling have good traction for you in snow/icy conditions?
For me, I feel really stable in Wildlings in snow and ice. But that’s more because they have such good ground feel and flexibility. The soles themselves, while not slick, are not super grippy.
Anya, love your website! I am a farmer, I do a lot of outside work in the cold Wisconsin winters. Thanks for the reviews. Bob
So thankful for your website, I check it almost daily 🙂
Wondering how you find the sole shape of the Steger boots? The toe area looks so rounded and I’d hate for them to make my bunions worse as that’s one of the main things I’m hoping to fix! My feet are square shaped, 10″x4″. I’ve tried Manitobah Mukluks 3 times over the years and returned them due to being too narrow and causing bunion pain. Do you think the Steger’s would feel similar or does the extra width help the toe area a lot? Need lots of warmth, width and waterproofing for Canadian winters.
Would love your opinion/advice! Thanks
Hi Diane! The Stegers in wide width are much roomier than Manitobah. I found that my Stegers felt a little tight overall in the foot at first, but the wool gets more compact with wear and they are now very roomy for me – I wear thick socks with them and still have enough space for toe splay. If you fit into men’s sizes, you could also try men’s wide, which is essentially double wide.
The smallest men’s size is too long for me but with the wool compacting it sounds like a women’s double wide should work! Thank you 🙂
Hey! Wondering if the Steger Mukluks have a good sized toe box/space for proper toe splay?
If you get the wide width, then yes. And if you are extra wide you can get Wide in Men’s sizes (which is essentially double wide). The wool tamps down as well so they end up being pretty wide in the forefoot.
Hi Anya,
I sized down for my recent purchase of the Manitobah short wraps. My toe touches the end of the boot, but it is not squished or painful. The website says this is normal but is this still the right fit for a barefoot fit? I’m nervous to size up because the ankles fit me the same way they seem to fit you.
Thank you!
Yeah, that’s consistent with my experience. They did indeed open up a lot. Still not really wide across the toes, but I’m glad I didn’t size up.
Hi Anya,
I love your site and have been loving my Belenka Winter boots for the last couple of years, thanks to your recommendation. Now I’m looking for something else – and I’m curious about what you prefer between the Belenka Snowfox and the Xero Alpine. I looked for a comparison here, but didn’t find one. I’m also wondering between Lem’s Outlander and Belenka Ranger. Basically, I use my Belenka Winter for work and outing, but I need something to play in the snow and/or do some wintery work/hikes and I’m debating between these. Or is the Lem’s Boulder boot something that would be good both for snow and winter work/hike ? Thank you for any help! I live in Utah. Happy Monday!
For me the Be Lenka Snowfox and Ranger are the best options. The Xero Alpine is a great boot, but it has a high volume, Wide Straight fit. My feet are low volume and fan shaped, and that matches the Snowfox fit much better. The Lems Outlander isn’t a true barefoot boot, it has a slight heel rise and the toe box is not as generous as their Boulder boots line. I do like the Boulder boot, but the Ranger functions better for hiking and icy/snowy conditions.
Thank you so much! I’ve been so pleased with Belenka that I’m stoked to get more from them. Hug of gratitude!
Hi again Anya,
Two more questions before I make my final move. Your store is sold out of the Snowfox – do you have an anticipated re-stock date? Just curious before I buy directly from Europe. And, sizing-wise: would you get the same size as your winter boot? I got a 38 for Belenka Winter Boot a couple of years ago, and it’s perfect. Stick with that, for both the Ranger and the Snowfox?
Thank you muchly!
– marta 🙂
Unfortunately the Snowfox isn’t being restocked, they aren’t going to keep making it. 🙁 I think the Winter feels a little bit more snug than the Snowfox, but I wear the same size in all 3 of those. It’s just the Winter I felt I had to break in a little more.
Wanted to add a snow boot that served me well backpacking in Maine in the winter- Vasque Women’s Lost 40 Snow Sneaker- barefoot friendly, super warm and waterproof
Thank you Haley!
I need to find a pair of warm zero drop winter boots that are good on ice and in snow. I have Xero’s alpine which are warm but not good on icy sidewalks. Also, the largest women’s size is 11, which feels a bit short for me. In addition, I have Morton’s neuroma on one foot and another type of metatarsal problem on the other. I have found a size 12 Altra Rivera shoe to be perfect for these conditions, as I have a narrow foot and it allows for enough toe length and width. I live in Mn. where the temp. can be very cold. I am looking for a boot to walk in on pavement, not do hiking etc. Please suggest what you think might work for me. thank you
Be Lenka Winter seems like a good option meeting those requirements. They do fit snugly because of the warm lining so you probably want to size up.
Are all Steger Mukluks “barefoot shoes” specifically the CamuksXtreme?
I actually just got off the phone with them and they assured me that they are flat and flexible, but I still wonder if there might be a very small heel rise there. In any case, they look like the most barefoot friendly hunting boot I’ve seen.
Question re: Crampons for ice
Hi, Anya! Thanks for the great info!!!
Hey, I am in frigid Minnesota looking for manageable, affordable crampons to avoid slipping on the ice. Slipped last year and still experiencing hip pain from my fall, though I ended up jogging after the fall to get to my destination. So, the YakTraks apparently have taken a dive in quality, and I’m wondering if you have updated recommendations. Thanks!
Here are the critical reviews on Amazon for the YakTraks. https://www.amazon.com/Yaktrax-Traction-Cleats-Walking-Jogging/product-reviews/B0094GO6ZG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewpnt_rgt?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews&filterByStar=critical&pageNumber=1
Hmmm, the YakTrax are the only ones I’ve tried. They do the job for me. So unfortunately I don’t have another recommendation.
Hi Anaya, love your site and have made so many purchase decisions from your reviews. I have a question about the Steger Mukluk sizing. I haven’t been able to figure out what width I need. I imagine wide or double wide just because I’m used to barefoot shoes, but at the same time I don’t want to be swimming in them. For reference The boulder boot (size 12) fits my forefoot well,i have a really skinny heel so they’re a little wide in the back, but still work fine. My foot type is Roman/Mountain, so I’ve typically had to size up to a 12 so my 2nd or 3rd toe doesn’t hit the end of the shoe. Also i plan on wearing thick wool socks with these as well. Any suggestions? Thanks
I would guess just wide in that case (if the Boulder boot works for your width). Stegers are very rounded in the toe so work well for Mountain too. But you can always call them and ask them for the exact measurements of the sizes you’re considering!
Hey Andrea. Kahtoola microspikes or hillsounds are better than Yaktrax for traction on ice. Yaktrax better for snow and slush.
Hey Anya,
I am looking for a rugged outdoor boot that is built to minimalist standards (preferably true zero drop) with a wide toe box. Russell Moccasins used to make a custom minimalist boot on the Munson Army last, and you could get it with zero drop. Unfortunately, they were bought out and now the custom boots are 3X the cost ($1500). There is about zero chance I could get $1500 worth of wear out of a pair of boots. Do you know of any custom boot makers that would take on this challenge without costing me one of my legs?
Hey Bill, if you are looking for fully custom and rugged for heavy outdoor use it will likely be a lot. Gaucho Ninja is another that comes to mine, but very pricey. A couple other significantly cheaper options that might work for you are No(n)s boots – they don’t do bespoke shoes, but they offers many customizations in different areas of the shoes and a few models are pretty heavy duty, like the the Wanderer Boots. Another option that is custom cut, but not as heavy duty is this Yean boot from Jenon Leather. And finally, not custom but a really great outdoor boot with a wide toe box, the Softstar Switchback boot.
Hi- which would you recommend for hiking (easy to hard hikes) and everyday winter boot (shoveling snow, walking around town) down to 0F if not the vivobarefoot? (I saw comments on your standalone review of the vivobarefoot about them not lasting very long and being uncomfortable on the heel; heel/achilles rubbing has been an issue for me with other non-barefoot winter boots when the leather bends in or slides at the achilles). Manitobah looks like they don’t carry the short wrap anymore. My main concern is for them to be really warm, and snug (no sliding or excessive creasing that presses in on the foot). Good traction too, so that rules out the xero for me, but if I expect it to be very icy or slippery out for a hike I’ll bring microspikes. I think that leaves the Steger and Sofstars; would those be ok for a serious all-day winter hike? I wasn’t really clear from how you described the traction and fit. For the Be Lenka Winters they seem like they’re not really made for winter hiking though could probably make do, and for the Polaris I’m worried about them not being snug.
Thanks so much for any clarification you can provide!
Hi Irene! The Be Lenka Winter boots on the newer rugged outsole would be a great choice for an all day winter hike. They have laces so you can customize the fit, and have a really warm lining. Steger is absolutely the warmest, and whether or not they’ll fit you snugly will depend on your foot shape/volume/size. They are designed for serious winter expeditions and can probably handle anything you want. The models with the wrapping straps will assist you in getting a secure fit. Softstars are really soft, but they aren’t waterproof if that’s important to you.
Hi Anya,
Your site is SO HELPFUL. Can you clarify what you mean when you tell us to “size up?” Many of the sizing guides of the brands you recommend also tell us to “size up” — that is, add 0.5 mm to 15 mm to our foot length. Is your “sizing up” in addition to that? Or maybe you mean choose a size adding closer to the 15 mm they recommend?
Keep up the great work! I just ordered a pair of Be Lenka Polaris from your shop!
Jill
Hi Jill! I mean choosing a size closer to the extra 15mm range. So if you were to measure your feet and compare it to the size chart, adding 1cm is standard for choosing your size. I consider sizing up to be adding 15-20mm to your foot length, which should work out to be one size bigger than what most brand’s size charts would recommend. Or, if you have tried a number of barefoot shoes already and have an idea of what your typical size is, you could just pick one larger than that.
Hello, I live in Australia snow isn’t an issue but houses are not designed for cold weather here and my house is an icebox, I am also hypersensitive to cold. Previously I have been wearing a pair of merino lined lace up Be Lenka boots, but I am not sure if it’s because they are fairly heavy but even though they are super warm they make my back hurt. Currently I am wearing the Ahinsa lace up Jaya boot with two pairs of socks and they are very comfortable but my toes still get cold. I have very narrow ankles so I need something that laces quite firmly and is very warm can you recommend anything? Thank you
The Shapen Cozy boot is a very light, warm boot with a side zip that laces really closely on low volume feet/narrow ankles. They debuted last fall for the first time and I ended up wearing them a lot. Kind of felt like slippers!
Hy Anya. This is Diego, from Spain. I’m seeking for a winter boots for this season and Ive read many of your reviews, but have some doubts on which one to choose.
I have like 10 vivobarefoots, but lately they seems a little narrow to my feet. Maybe I have wider foots now. If it’s not leather, usually is not an issue, but leather ones seems more restrictive.
Last time I bought a Be Lenka Champ 3.0, and they seems wider than vivo, but I had issues with foot height. I had to put them on the shoe shaper to enlarge them a little bit, cause they where too low.
All this said, I’ve seen many boots, and I like the Vivo Tracker forest and the Lem Outlander, but I don’t know if they are the ones for me. I want them to be more for hiking than urban, water resistant, and mainly confortable for my feet.
Can you help me here? Thanks in advance.
Diego
Hi Diego! If you already like Vivo than the Tracker Forest Escape seems like a good option. The leather is softer and looser than other Vivo shoes so I don’t think you’ll have the same issue of them feeling too restrictive. They are a nice boot, comfortable and definitely good for hiking. The Outlander from Lems is quite different, and actually not totally zero drop (very close though). They feel a lot more like a traditional hiker with a thicker, stiffer sole. So it might be a totally different feel than what you’re expecting. Lems is releasing some new boots later this fall with a thinner, flat sole that look really promising. But all Lems shoes are going to be thicker than Vivo shoes.
Thanks for your feedback Anya, and with this in mind, would you recommend any other model from other brands that I haven’t considered?
About the Vivo Tracker Forest Escape, you says the leather is softer and about the sizing? I usually have a 43(EU) on Vivos, but keeping in mind maybe I put a insole or thicker socks, would you recommend me to size up or you consider is not needed?
If you don’t have high volume feet then I would stick with your usual 43 for the Forest Escape!
Hi again Anya, Thanks for everything. You’ve been very helpful. Sadly I think I have high volume feet, that’s why I had issues with the Be Lenka Champ 3.0 and had to put them on a shoe shaper to enlarge them and use them with no insole.
Well the Champ is pretty shallow, so it may still be true that you don’t have high volume feet, just medium volume. It’s not an exact science, but for me and Justin (two ends of the size range, one women’s and one men’s) the Forest Escape was overall roomier than other Vivo shoes we’ve tried. Both in width and in volume. So I still think there’s a good chance you’ll like your usual Vivo size. But if you are going to want to add a thick insole and wear thick socks and don’t mind a big fit then you could also try the size up.
Thanks for everything Anya, you can’t image how useful you’ve been. You are a sweetheart. I think I’ll go with my number.
Thanks!!!